Comments on: 23AndMe? I don’t think so! http://www.tomrafteryit.net/23andme-i-dont-think-so/ Tom Raftery, social media consultant, speaker, blogger and podcaster Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:17:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Sensible http://www.tomrafteryit.net/23andme-i-dont-think-so/#comment-114717 Sensible Sun, 24 Feb 2008 02:40:09 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/23andme-i-dont-think-so/#comment-114717 So do you you not urinate in the cup at the doctor for the same reason? Think of all the data you willing give your doctor and insurance company without a thought. Why would you not want to see your DNA? As you say, it is the "most fundamental element of your being", so you would prefer to remain ignorant about the most fundamental element of your being? I think the knowledge you would gain about yourself, and your kids (maybe something you learn will save their lives one day) way outweighs the slim chance that there is some government conspiracy brewing to tap into you DNA to rule the world. So do you you not urinate in the cup at the doctor for the same reason? Think of all the data you willing give your doctor and insurance company without a thought. Why would you not want to see your DNA? As you say, it is the “most fundamental element of your being”, so you would prefer to remain ignorant about the most fundamental element of your being? I think the knowledge you would gain about yourself, and your kids (maybe something you learn will save their lives one day) way outweighs the slim chance that there is some government conspiracy brewing to tap into you DNA to rule the world.

]]> By: Muhabbet http://www.tomrafteryit.net/23andme-i-dont-think-so/#comment-114541 Muhabbet Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:51:32 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/23andme-i-dont-think-so/#comment-114541 You’re 100% correct Tom. Great You’re 100% correct Tom. Great

]]> By: Motivator http://www.tomrafteryit.net/23andme-i-dont-think-so/#comment-114337 Motivator Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:54:05 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/23andme-i-dont-think-so/#comment-114337 This is something interesting. I know that DNA can track a lot of stuff including your genes and your family genes but this will surely cost more considering that in order fo you to track down everything you will need to convinced a lot of your relatives which is not very advisable since they might have been dead already.But this is another breakthrough in science right? This is something interesting. I know that DNA can track a lot of stuff including your genes and your family genes but this will surely cost more considering that in order fo you to track down everything you will need to convinced a lot of your relatives which is not very advisable since they might have been dead already.But this is another breakthrough in science right?

]]> By: Paul M. Watson http://www.tomrafteryit.net/23andme-i-dont-think-so/#comment-114311 Paul M. Watson Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:39:56 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/23andme-i-dont-think-so/#comment-114311 Apart from the price I have no problem with the idea. Ideally I'd like it to be a non-profit, research organisation looking to build up a database of human DNA. (My sister does research in the DNA field. I'm not completely clueless.) Apart from the price I have no problem with the idea. Ideally I’d like it to be a non-profit, research organisation looking to build up a database of human DNA.

(My sister does research in the DNA field. I’m not completely clueless.)

]]> By: Jose del Moral http://www.tomrafteryit.net/23andme-i-dont-think-so/#comment-114301 Jose del Moral Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:15:50 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/23andme-i-dont-think-so/#comment-114301 Great article, Tom! I wrote more or less the same things but not so well after I heard these girls in Munich: http://blogs.alianzo.com/socialnetworks/2008/01/23/23-and-me-the-project-did-not-convince-m/ Great article, Tom! I wrote more or less the same things but not so well after I heard these girls in Munich:
http://blogs.alianzo.com/socialnetworks/2008/01/23/23-and-me-the-project-did-not-convince-m/

]]> By: Philip http://www.tomrafteryit.net/23andme-i-dont-think-so/#comment-114300 Philip Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:59:27 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/23andme-i-dont-think-so/#comment-114300 You're 100% correct Tom. But then people blithely allow their irises to be scanned on entry to the US for a shopping trip and for me that's nearly as bad (I know some resign themselves to it only because they have to go for work reasons), and the main reason why I won't go to the US until this is stopped, hopefully under the next administration. And Robert, that link is as scary as it gets. If the technology is being developed to obtain dna from fingerprints, then irises can't be far behind. I think I need a drink. You’re 100% correct Tom.
But then people blithely allow their irises to be scanned on entry to the US for a shopping trip and for me that’s nearly as bad (I know some resign themselves to it only because they have to go for work reasons), and the main reason why I won’t go to the US until this is stopped, hopefully under the next administration.
And Robert, that link is as scary as it gets. If the technology is being developed to obtain dna from fingerprints, then irises can’t be far behind.
I think I need a drink.

]]> By: Robert Collins http://www.tomrafteryit.net/23andme-i-dont-think-so/#comment-114297 Robert Collins Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:24:41 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/23andme-i-dont-think-so/#comment-114297 Spooky Indeed - What I really wonder is what they will do with the collective information they compile over the years. If Joe can compare DNA traits against Mary's saliva swab sample - or find friends with a genetic disposition for being red headed, with a cleft palette, musically inclined, left-handed, weak-hearted fellow alcoholics who descended from Norway - how soon is will it be where governments and insurance organizations leverage this database. Lords knows we wouldn't want to the Government to forcefully start taking out DNA samples... but guise it will a "Hey, Isn't this a cool friendly offer....” and people get up early to jump in line. Why are we so prone to line-up and just give away our most private personal data for a 5% discount or fee gummy bears. For more interesting reading on giving away your privacy and laying the ground work for perhaps losing more personal liberties - check out your local library -- or this interesting link... http://www.hackcanada.com/canadian/freedom/canadna.html Spooky Indeed - What I really wonder is what they will do with the collective information they compile over the years.

If Joe can compare DNA traits against Mary’s saliva swab sample - or find friends with a genetic disposition for being red headed, with a cleft palette, musically inclined, left-handed, weak-hearted fellow alcoholics who descended from Norway - how soon is will it be where governments and insurance organizations leverage this database.

Lords knows we wouldn’t want to the Government to forcefully start taking out DNA samples… but guise it will a “Hey, Isn’t this a cool friendly offer….” and people get up early to jump in line. Why are we so prone to line-up and just give away our most private personal data for a 5% discount or fee gummy bears.

For more interesting reading on giving away your privacy and laying the ground work for perhaps losing more personal liberties - check out your local library — or this interesting link…

http://www.hackcanada.com/canadian/freedom/canadna.html

]]> By: Mark http://www.tomrafteryit.net/23andme-i-dont-think-so/#comment-114296 Mark Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:04:55 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/23andme-i-dont-think-so/#comment-114296 So what they would then have is my DNA. But they also then have part of my children's DNA. Given how insurance companies want to cut out the high risks, why give them this data to not just use on me but also my children? I'd be violating their privacy at an amazing level. And this company - at what point do they sell that information on? Such information would seem to be of much less value if there is no additional information attached to it. This is wrong on every level. So what they would then have is my DNA. But they also then have part of my children’s DNA. Given how insurance companies want to cut out the high risks, why give them this data to not just use on me but also my children? I’d be violating their privacy at an amazing level.

And this company - at what point do they sell that information on? Such information would seem to be of much less value if there is no additional information attached to it.

This is wrong on every level.

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