Comments on: A sad day for Internet freedoms in China http://www.tomrafteryit.net/a-sad-day-for-internet-freedoms-in-china/ Tom Raftery, social media consultant, speaker, blogger and podcaster Sat, 05 Jul 2008 03:43:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Kotsengkuba http://www.tomrafteryit.net/a-sad-day-for-internet-freedoms-in-china/#comment-115633 Kotsengkuba Sat, 29 Mar 2008 04:59:02 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/a-sad-day-for-internet-freedoms-in-china/#comment-115633 I have been complaining these for almost an eternity here in China and even discuss often with my Chinese colleagues but they always say every country would do this and I would always say no, it's only China. here's one post i'd written before: http://www.kotsengkuba.com/2007/10/21/when-the-portals-open-for-blogspot-it-close-doors-for-youtube-and-wordpress/ and here's how i manage to get away with them: http://www.kotsengkuba.com/2007/11/02/kotsengkuba-blasted-the-great-wall/ but i never experienced to be redirected to baidu though they google search results are somehow filtered. i made some comparison with my wife while she's in the philippines and the difference is really enourmous ;-) I have been complaining these for almost an eternity here in China and even discuss often with my Chinese colleagues but they always say every country would do this and I would always say no, it’s only China.

here’s one post i’d written before:
http://www.kotsengkuba.com/2007/10/21/when-the-portals-open-for-blogspot-it-close-doors-for-youtube-and-wordpress/

and here’s how i manage to get away with them:
http://www.kotsengkuba.com/2007/11/02/kotsengkuba-blasted-the-great-wall/

but i never experienced to be redirected to baidu though they google search results are somehow filtered. i made some comparison with my wife while she’s in the philippines and the difference is really enourmous ;-)

]]> By: Robert http://www.tomrafteryit.net/a-sad-day-for-internet-freedoms-in-china/#comment-111721 Robert Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:33:28 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/a-sad-day-for-internet-freedoms-in-china/#comment-111721 Regardless of hoax or not, we all look at china and say , look how bad they have it, they are taking away peoples right to information and censoring the internet... People forget to look closer to home. It wasn;t long ago that britain wanted to censor peoples blogs to stop cyber terrorism.. what is classes as cyber terrorism , anybody that has an opinion other than the government agenda. apart from that the whole US battle against net neutrality will likely lead to a form of Internet censorship disabling the freedom of expression we enjoy at the moment! Regardless of hoax or not, we all look at china and say , look how bad they have it, they are taking away peoples right to information and censoring the internet…

People forget to look closer to home.

It wasn;t long ago that britain wanted to censor peoples blogs to stop cyber terrorism.. what is classes as cyber terrorism , anybody that has an opinion other than the government agenda.

apart from that the whole US battle against net neutrality will likely lead to a form of Internet censorship disabling the freedom of expression we enjoy at the moment!

]]> By: Tiny Planet » Links o' the day http://www.tomrafteryit.net/a-sad-day-for-internet-freedoms-in-china/#comment-111716 Tiny Planet » Links o' the day Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:15:00 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/a-sad-day-for-internet-freedoms-in-china/#comment-111716 [...] A sad day for internet freedoms in China.  Traffic from search engines Yahoo!, Live.com and Google are being redirected to Chinese-owned Baidu.com. Bastards. [...] [...] A sad day for internet freedoms in China.  Traffic from search engines Yahoo!, Live.com and Google are being redirected to Chinese-owned Baidu.com. Bastards. [...]

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.tomrafteryit.net/a-sad-day-for-internet-freedoms-in-china/#comment-111715 Jonathan Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:34:19 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/a-sad-day-for-internet-freedoms-in-china/#comment-111715 Hoax. I would look at the various ISPs in question from where they are currently surfing. From my experience over there depending on the ISP you are with, various sites can be blocked at a regional level and also at a national level. I wouldn't be surprised if a few ISPs had changed the route but it is not done with the backing of the Chinese netnanny of the GFC. As for this being a form of retaliation with the award a certain leader of Tibet received from GWB, complete bullshit! Hoax. I would look at the various ISPs in question from where they are currently surfing. From my experience over there depending on the ISP you are with, various sites can be blocked at a regional level and also at a national level. I wouldn’t be surprised if a few ISPs had changed the route but it is not done with the backing of the Chinese netnanny of the GFC.

As for this being a form of retaliation with the award a certain leader of Tibet received from GWB, complete bullshit!

]]> By: Bernie Goldbach http://www.tomrafteryit.net/a-sad-day-for-internet-freedoms-in-china/#comment-111710 Bernie Goldbach Fri, 19 Oct 2007 08:46:09 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/a-sad-day-for-internet-freedoms-in-china/#comment-111710 Our Hong Kong student in Tipperary Institute says this story is a rehashing of an old meme that seems to get link traction whenever it resurfaces. I don't think the main point--Google banned from search--can be verified because our native Chinese cannot confirm the story and Blognation seems to have the reach the same conclusion: link baiting. Our Hong Kong student in Tipperary Institute says this story is a rehashing of an old meme that seems to get link traction whenever it resurfaces. I don’t think the main point–Google banned from search–can be verified because our native Chinese cannot confirm the story and Blognation seems to have the reach the same conclusion: link baiting.

]]> By: Fons Tuinstra http://www.tomrafteryit.net/a-sad-day-for-internet-freedoms-in-china/#comment-111705 Fons Tuinstra Fri, 19 Oct 2007 04:56:02 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/a-sad-day-for-internet-freedoms-in-china/#comment-111705 The story seems to be another hoax like so many before. None of the China-based bloggers is writing about it and I have no problems here in Shanghai to get to the search engines. The story seems to be another hoax like so many before. None of the China-based bloggers is writing about it and I have no problems here in Shanghai to get to the search engines.

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