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		<title>By: Zues</title>
		<link>http://www.tomrafteryit.net/backup-software-for-vista/#comment-112039</link>
		<dc:creator>Zues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 02:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Tom im looking for backup software myself havent found much yet but you can get a program called Partition Magic it is a grat program real simplet to use.  What you can do is shrink the Vista partition and make another partition on the free space for Ubuntu.  But with my personal experiance with Ubuntu and laptops its not really worth it because of all the hardware issues with laptops and linux.  I tried PC Linux OS 07 it was a wicked os to use way way better then Ubuntu and very simple to use.  Give it a go im sure you will be very impressed.  Good luck from Zues</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Tom im looking for backup software myself havent found much yet but you can get a program called Partition Magic it is a grat program real simplet to use.  What you can do is shrink the Vista partition and make another partition on the free space for Ubuntu.  But with my personal experiance with Ubuntu and laptops its not really worth it because of all the hardware issues with laptops and linux.  I tried PC Linux OS 07 it was a wicked os to use way way better then Ubuntu and very simple to use.  Give it a go im sure you will be very impressed.  Good luck from Zues</p>
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		<title>By: richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 08:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as i know( never tried it)there is a way to run Ubuntu in a folder in windows as if it were a partition.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as i know( never tried it)there is a way to run Ubuntu in a folder in windows as if it were a partition&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Raftery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Raftery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 08:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys,

thanks a million for all the feedback and suggestions.

I needed to be sure I didn't damage the Windows partition because I have one or two programs on it which I need - specifically Pinnacle Studio video editing suite.

I tried the Ubuntu Live CD but I wasn't confident enough that the options given in the installer wouldn't wipe my Windows partition so I backed out of that route.

I didn't want to go the VMWare/VirtualPC route because I wanted to see what Ubuntu's performance is like when installed in its own partition.

@Steven - there were no T&#038;C's precluding me from installing another OS on the laptop but thanks for thinking of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys,</p>
<p>thanks a million for all the feedback and suggestions.</p>
<p>I needed to be sure I didn&#8217;t damage the Windows partition because I have one or two programs on it which I need - specifically Pinnacle Studio video editing suite.</p>
<p>I tried the Ubuntu Live CD but I wasn&#8217;t confident enough that the options given in the installer wouldn&#8217;t wipe my Windows partition so I backed out of that route.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t want to go the VMWare/VirtualPC route because I wanted to see what Ubuntu&#8217;s performance is like when installed in its own partition.</p>
<p>@Steven - there were no T&#038;C&#8217;s precluding me from installing another OS on the laptop but thanks for thinking of it.</p>
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		<title>By: John Ward</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 08:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom,
Not 100% sure of vista but the windows XP install is a cinch.

The Ubuntu LiveCD install allows you to boot from CD to play with Ubuntu. Once booted in LiveCD you can install from there. It includes gnome partition editor (gparted) which allows you to resize the existing windows partition.

You need to select 'specify my own partitions' or something like that rather than the default for full control. This will install ubuntu on the new partition and grub (boot menu to select OS).

I'm no longer using windows, and am kicking myself at the wasted disk I've given, so thats something to consider.

If you decide to go the full way, VMWare server console is available for free and you can run windows as a virtual PC inside ubuntu.

http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-vmware-server-from-canonical-commercial-repository-in-ubuntu-feisty.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,<br />
Not 100% sure of vista but the windows XP install is a cinch.</p>
<p>The Ubuntu LiveCD install allows you to boot from CD to play with Ubuntu. Once booted in LiveCD you can install from there. It includes gnome partition editor (gparted) which allows you to resize the existing windows partition.</p>
<p>You need to select &#8217;specify my own partitions&#8217; or something like that rather than the default for full control. This will install ubuntu on the new partition and grub (boot menu to select OS).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m no longer using windows, and am kicking myself at the wasted disk I&#8217;ve given, so thats something to consider.</p>
<p>If you decide to go the full way, VMWare server console is available for free and you can run windows as a virtual PC inside ubuntu.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-vmware-server-from-canonical-commercial-repository-in-ubuntu-feisty.html">http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-vmware-server-from-canonical-commercial-repository-in-ubuntu-feisty.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul Browne - Technology and People</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Browne - Technology and People</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 07:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom,

Alternative approach is to run Ubuntu *inside* Vista usual free tools such as Microsoft Virtual PC or VMWare (I tend to prefer the 2nd product).

The advantage is that you can have 'both machines' open at the same time, and not to have to switch between them. I think the concept is broadly similar to Paralells for the Mac.

Paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,</p>
<p>Alternative approach is to run Ubuntu *inside* Vista usual free tools such as Microsoft Virtual PC or VMWare (I tend to prefer the 2nd product).</p>
<p>The advantage is that you can have &#8216;both machines&#8217; open at the same time, and not to have to switch between them. I think the concept is broadly similar to Paralells for the Mac.</p>
<p>Paul</p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 00:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect Vista might have, built-in, the tools you need to install Ubuntu whilst preserving your existing Windows configuration, Tom.

If Vista is installed onto a straightforward NTFS partition (i.e. no funny business on the part of the manufacturer with hidden partitions for system restores), then you will probably be able to use the provided Disk Management features to resize this partition to make room on the HDD for another; see http://vistarewired.com/2007/02/16/how-to-resize-a-partition-in-windows-vista/. I've used the feature for this very purpose, and it did the trick.

Having done this, the Ubuntu installer can be directed to install its OS into the free space on the disk and it should more or less automatically configure a boot menu with an option to start Windows.

Also, Vista's "Backup and Restore Center" has an option to "Create a Windows Complete PC Backup and Restore image of your entire computer, which can be used to recover from a hardware failure," it says here. I have not tried this, so can't provide an opinion as to how good/bad/indifferent it is. But it's there.

Or, as Paul says above, Virtual PC is a perfectly good tool for playing with other operating systems, with none of the fuss I've described. Also one wonders whether, the machine having been provided by Microsoft for the purposes of receiving feedback on Vista, there aren't clause(s) in the T&#38;Cs precluding installation of other, non-virtualized, operating systems; perhaps as a condition for continuing to receive support?

Think PC World and broken hinges..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect Vista might have, built-in, the tools you need to install Ubuntu whilst preserving your existing Windows configuration, Tom.</p>
<p>If Vista is installed onto a straightforward NTFS partition (i.e. no funny business on the part of the manufacturer with hidden partitions for system restores), then you will probably be able to use the provided Disk Management features to resize this partition to make room on the HDD for another; see <a href="http://vistarewired.com/2007/02/16/how-to-resize-a-partition-in-windows-vista/">http://vistarewired.com/2007/02/16/how-to-resize-a-partition-in-windows-vista/</a>. I&#8217;ve used the feature for this very purpose, and it did the trick.</p>
<p>Having done this, the Ubuntu installer can be directed to install its OS into the free space on the disk and it should more or less automatically configure a boot menu with an option to start Windows.</p>
<p>Also, Vista&#8217;s &#8220;Backup and Restore Center&#8221; has an option to &#8220;Create a Windows Complete PC Backup and Restore image of your entire computer, which can be used to recover from a hardware failure,&#8221; it says here. I have not tried this, so can&#8217;t provide an opinion as to how good/bad/indifferent it is. But it&#8217;s there.</p>
<p>Or, as Paul says above, Virtual PC is a perfectly good tool for playing with other operating systems, with none of the fuss I&#8217;ve described. Also one wonders whether, the machine having been provided by Microsoft for the purposes of receiving feedback on Vista, there aren&#8217;t clause(s) in the T&amp;Cs precluding installation of other, non-virtualized, operating systems; perhaps as a condition for continuing to receive support?</p>
<p>Think PC World and broken hinges..</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Duggan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Duggan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom

I would highly recommend installing Ubuntu using Virtual PC - a free download from Microsoft.com.
Virtual PC is useful for all kinds of things, including installing linux distros. No need for any hard drive partition worries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom</p>
<p>I would highly recommend installing Ubuntu using Virtual PC - a free download from Microsoft.com.<br />
Virtual PC is useful for all kinds of things, including installing linux distros. No need for any hard drive partition worries.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Raftery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Raftery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 14:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sean - fantastic, that's reassuring to hear. I think I'll go the Wubi route then. There's far less chance of my hosing the Windows partition!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sean - fantastic, that&#8217;s reassuring to hear. I think I&#8217;ll go the Wubi route then. There&#8217;s far less chance of my hosing the Windows partition!</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Deasy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Deasy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 13:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have used Wubi very successfully on my pc at home without messing with any partitioning or anything. I'd recommend it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have used Wubi very successfully on my pc at home without messing with any partitioning or anything. I&#8217;d recommend it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Raftery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Raftery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 12:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Donncha - really? Excellent, maybe I should just try it!

@David - brilliant, thanks for the recommendation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Donncha - really? Excellent, maybe I should just try it!</p>
<p>@David - brilliant, thanks for the recommendation.</p>
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		<title>By: David Doran</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Doran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 12:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't help with the whole backing up the system first. I hate messing about with the OS and disks, such a minefield but the software I used the last time when installing Ubuntu alongside WXP was Paragon Partition Manager. Phenomenal software that I've used to shrink single-partition disks and add linux/swap partitions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t help with the whole backing up the system first. I hate messing about with the OS and disks, such a minefield but the software I used the last time when installing Ubuntu alongside WXP was Paragon Partition Manager. Phenomenal software that I&#8217;ve used to shrink single-partition disks and add linux/swap partitions.</p>
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		<title>By: Donncha O Caoimh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donncha O Caoimh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 12:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't recommend any software, but I did install Ubuntu on a laptop running Vista and the installer resized the Vista partition without a problem. 

Backup first though, I didn't have anything on the Vista partition I wanted to keep :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t recommend any software, but I did install Ubuntu on a laptop running Vista and the installer resized the Vista partition without a problem. </p>
<p>Backup first though, I didn&#8217;t have anything on the Vista partition I wanted to keep <img src='http://www.tomrafteryit.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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