Comments on: Google founder defends censorship

By: China blocks Technorati » at Tom Raftery’s I.T. views

China blocks Technorati » at Tom Raftery’s I.T. views — Fri, 28 Apr 2006 10:30:44 +0000

[...] I have posted about this topic in the past and, in my naive opinion, unless all the search engines come together to formulate a common China strategy, China will continue to pick them off one by one. [...]

By: Could podcasting get content through the Great Firewall of China? « Tom Raftery’s I.T. views

Fri, 03 Feb 2006 13:08:24 +0000

[...] I wrote a couple of pieces last week about Google’s Internet censorship in China and the debate continues this week. [...]

By: prying1

prying1 — Fri, 27 Jan 2006 15:34:20 +0000

I think it is sad that Google will bend their scruples for a ruthless murderous foriegn government yet when people complain about results with the word Jew or baby Jesus no steps are taken. Just excuses!

- One thing I found with the baby Jesus line comes up with the same #1 link in both .cn and .com - Wonder if the Chinese Govt. will complain and get results.

By: Lar Veale

Lar Veale — Fri, 27 Jan 2006 14:40:07 +0000

Oops last link should be:
http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&q=tiananmen%20square&spell=1&sa=N&tab=wi

By: Lar Veale

Lar Veale — Fri, 27 Jan 2006 14:38:41 +0000

Spot the difference (link shows the first image displayed when searching google.cn and ">google.com for "Tianamen Square"). Conclusion: I think I'll skip the Beijing Olympics

By: Tom Raftery

Tom Raftery — Thu, 26 Jan 2006 22:30:54 +0000

It is called profiteering Alan.

Google are the ones who claim their motto is “Do no evil” - obviously they need to add an addendum - “Do no evil - unless it interferes with plans to make a profit, then work away with evilness”

By: Alan O'Rourke

Alan O'Rourke — Thu, 26 Jan 2006 22:14:05 +0000

But it is not Googles job. The very fact Google are allowed in at all is a small move forward. Change is slow. Even slower for a country of that size. At the end of the day real change only comes from within.

By: Tom Raftery

Tom Raftery — Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:57:55 +0000

Is China part of the UN?

Umm yes, in fact they have a permanent seat on the security council making them one of its most powerful members.

By: Alan O'Rourke

Alan O'Rourke — Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:38:32 +0000

It is a bit. Is China part of the UN?

By: Tom Raftery

Tom Raftery — Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:11:20 +0000

Alan,

this isn’t about laws but about human rights as laid down bt the UN’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights (specifically articles 18 and 19).

By: Alan O'Rourke

Alan O'Rourke — Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:17:12 +0000

I don’t think this has anything to do with Google at all. If you want to get your product or service into a country you have to abide by their laws. We would expect the same of a person, company or product coming to our shore.

The issue of censorship and its solution lies with the people of china.

The banding together of search engines to fight china will do nothing as China already has its own search engines. Google and the like, if entering china, are actually playing catch-up to the leading Chinese engines. They are the little guys.