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		<title>By: Secunia on the ball with Zero Day IE7 alert &#171; Jim Bytes - Doing I.T. in Dublin!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Secunia on the ball with Zero Day IE7 alert &#171; Jim Bytes - Doing I.T. in Dublin!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 11:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] another angle, some including Tom Raftery have expressed concerns that moving to IE7 will be a support nightmare. I think Microsoft have done sufficient release prep work to minimise this, providing enough [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 20:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have tried to remove IE7 from control panel and it does not show up. Where is it hidden?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have tried to remove IE7 from control panel and it does not show up. Where is it hidden?</p>
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		<title>By: Internet Explorer 7 has been released &#187; at Tom Raftery&#8217;s I.T. views</title>
		<link>http://www.tomrafteryit.net/ie7-automatic-update-support-nightmare/#comment-44273</link>
		<dc:creator>Internet Explorer 7 has been released &#187; at Tom Raftery&#8217;s I.T. views</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 07:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] IE7 will be rolled out via a critical Windows update in the coming weeks which, as I have mentioned previously, will become a support nightmare. For this version it would make a huge amount of sense to have an IE6 look and feel (skin) as the default look with an option to change. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] IE7 will be rolled out via a critical Windows update in the coming weeks which, as I have mentioned previously, will become a support nightmare. For this version it would make a huge amount of sense to have an IE6 look and feel (skin) as the default look with an option to change. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: meherenow &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Microsoft to distribute new browser via automatic update</title>
		<link>http://www.tomrafteryit.net/ie7-automatic-update-support-nightmare/#comment-39946</link>
		<dc:creator>meherenow &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Microsoft to distribute new browser via automatic update</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 18:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] IE7 + Automatic Update = support nightmare! Â» at Tom Rafteryâ€™s I.T. views [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ptvGuy &#187; Internet Explorer 7: Is Your Site Ready?: Public Television Station Web Development</title>
		<link>http://www.tomrafteryit.net/ie7-automatic-update-support-nightmare/#comment-26441</link>
		<dc:creator>ptvGuy &#187; Internet Explorer 7: Is Your Site Ready?: Public Television Station Web Development</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 14:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] At some point during the next few months (the fourth quarter of this year,) Microsoft will be rolling out this upgrade as a high-priority, automatic update. That means that most Windows XP users will simply be online one day when they&#8217;ll receive a popup alert from the system tray saying that updates are ready for their computer. Virtually overnight, you&#8217;ll find most of your site visitors have made the switch.   This all seems straightforward enough until you consider someone like my father. My father is in his 70s. He browses the &#8216;Net daily. If presented with the option to install a security update, he has been trained to click accept (without trying to comprehend what specifically it is patching). If he accepts this and suddenly his browser experience changes (sites that used to render properly no longer work) he&#8217;ll be completely confused. He wouldn&#8217;t know how to uninstall. - Tom Raftery IE7 + Automatic Update = support nightmare [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] At some point during the next few months (the fourth quarter of this year,) Microsoft will be rolling out this upgrade as a high-priority, automatic update. That means that most Windows XP users will simply be online one day when they&#8217;ll receive a popup alert from the system tray saying that updates are ready for their computer. Virtually overnight, you&#8217;ll find most of your site visitors have made the switch.   This all seems straightforward enough until you consider someone like my father. My father is in his 70s. He browses the &#8216;Net daily. If presented with the option to install a security update, he has been trained to click accept (without trying to comprehend what specifically it is patching). If he accepts this and suddenly his browser experience changes (sites that used to render properly no longer work) he&#8217;ll be completely confused. He wouldn&#8217;t know how to uninstall. - Tom Raftery IE7 + Automatic Update = support nightmare [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Irishblogs.ie wrecking my buzz? &#187; at Tom Raftery&#8217;s I.T. views</title>
		<link>http://www.tomrafteryit.net/ie7-automatic-update-support-nightmare/#comment-20042</link>
		<dc:creator>Irishblogs.ie wrecking my buzz? &#187; at Tom Raftery&#8217;s I.T. views</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mark Dowling</title>
		<link>http://www.tomrafteryit.net/ie7-automatic-update-support-nightmare/#comment-20041</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Dowling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the UI was more flexible (address bar movable from top etc.) so that it could be more IE6-ish it would be tempting but for corporate any change to UI is a big support issue.

Anyone in a corp setting should be using WSUS or Patchlink (we use the latter) or some other means for deploying patches to ensure that full control is exercised over patches (so that patches can be deployed to a test group to ensure against breakage).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the UI was more flexible (address bar movable from top etc.) so that it could be more IE6-ish it would be tempting but for corporate any change to UI is a big support issue.</p>
<p>Anyone in a corp setting should be using WSUS or Patchlink (we use the latter) or some other means for deploying patches to ensure that full control is exercised over patches (so that patches can be deployed to a test group to ensure against breakage).</p>
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		<title>By: Conor O'Neill</title>
		<link>http://www.tomrafteryit.net/ie7-automatic-update-support-nightmare/#comment-20037</link>
		<dc:creator>Conor O'Neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 15:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm running IE7 Beta 3 and really like it but (and it is a big but), it does not work with the utterly rubbish Ulster Bank Online Business banking (IE6   MS VM only) and yesterday I discovered that it doesn't work with EsatBT's sign-up screens for their broadband packages. 

In both cases the fault lies with the web-site owners for designing such rubbish sites but that is no help if you need to access them and IE7 does not work when IE6 did. The interesting thing for me is that IE7 is more like FF than IE6 in terms of which sites work and which do not.

There are going to be huge support issues if this is auto-pushed but I still hope they do as it will force all those sites to redesign using standards and therefore implicitly support FF where they didn't previously. Either that or those sites go out of business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m running IE7 Beta 3 and really like it but (and it is a big but), it does not work with the utterly rubbish Ulster Bank Online Business banking (IE6   MS VM only) and yesterday I discovered that it doesn&#8217;t work with EsatBT&#8217;s sign-up screens for their broadband packages. </p>
<p>In both cases the fault lies with the web-site owners for designing such rubbish sites but that is no help if you need to access them and IE7 does not work when IE6 did. The interesting thing for me is that IE7 is more like FF than IE6 in terms of which sites work and which do not.</p>
<p>There are going to be huge support issues if this is auto-pushed but I still hope they do as it will force all those sites to redesign using standards and therefore implicitly support FF where they didn&#8217;t previously. Either that or those sites go out of business.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Hearne</title>
		<link>http://www.tomrafteryit.net/ie7-automatic-update-support-nightmare/#comment-20036</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Hearne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 14:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Brian

I was just pointing out that people have the choice to disable *this particular* download by downloading that particular MS patch. Some people might prefer to wait a little while before committing to the upgrade.

TBH I would prefer if MS would release good code that wasn't so susceptible to security issues in the first place.

I use FF because I do a lot of development and SEO and cant live without the many extensions that I use literally 100's of times daily.  If I *really* need to I just open up IE in a FF tab.

Firebug is the finest extension I've seen thus far. It helps me debug just about everything web related.  If IE offered me this functionality I would certainly consider moving over. I try to avoid apps that make use of IE's engine.

I'm quite sure I will install IE7 for cross-browser testing but I doubt whether I will use it that often.  Time will tell.

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brian</p>
<p>I was just pointing out that people have the choice to disable *this particular* download by downloading that particular MS patch. Some people might prefer to wait a little while before committing to the upgrade.</p>
<p>TBH I would prefer if MS would release good code that wasn&#8217;t so susceptible to security issues in the first place.</p>
<p>I use FF because I do a lot of development and SEO and cant live without the many extensions that I use literally 100&#8217;s of times daily.  If I *really* need to I just open up IE in a FF tab.</p>
<p>Firebug is the finest extension I&#8217;ve seen thus far. It helps me debug just about everything web related.  If IE offered me this functionality I would certainly consider moving over. I try to avoid apps that make use of IE&#8217;s engine.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m quite sure I will install IE7 for cross-browser testing but I doubt whether I will use it that often.  Time will tell.<br />
 <img src='http://www.tomrafteryit.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Brian Delahunty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Delahunty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 14:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean - the final release of IE 7 can be uninstalled from Add/Remove programs and this will revert IE back to IE 6.

Richard - I'm guessing then that you would prefer if they didn't supply security updates? I personally was a hardened FF fan and user until I installed IE 7 beta 2 to check out what the IE team had been doing. I have yet found a reason to open up FF again and the beta crashes less than FF did. FF fan or not, IE 7 is a major improvement and more secure than IE 6 so irregardless of whether or not you use IE as your browser you should be installing all IE security patches (IE 7 being considered one) as plenty of apps use IE components internally.

Tom - I'm probably going to be providing that support to family and friends too!!! arrragghhhh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean - the final release of IE 7 can be uninstalled from Add/Remove programs and this will revert IE back to IE 6.</p>
<p>Richard - I&#8217;m guessing then that you would prefer if they didn&#8217;t supply security updates? I personally was a hardened FF fan and user until I installed IE 7 beta 2 to check out what the IE team had been doing. I have yet found a reason to open up FF again and the beta crashes less than FF did. FF fan or not, IE 7 is a major improvement and more secure than IE 6 so irregardless of whether or not you use IE as your browser you should be installing all IE security patches (IE 7 being considered one) as plenty of apps use IE components internally.</p>
<p>Tom - I&#8217;m probably going to be providing that support to family and friends too!!! arrragghhhh!</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 13:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom - we are talking Redmond here. Since when did common sense enter their thinking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom - we are talking Redmond here. Since when did common sense enter their thinking?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Hearne</title>
		<link>http://www.tomrafteryit.net/ie7-automatic-update-support-nightmare/#comment-20031</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Hearne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 13:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can a get a tool that disables the auto update: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=4516A6F7-5D44-482B-9DBD-869B4A90159C&#38;displaylang=en

MS seem to be getting much more forceful the last few years.  Customer choice seems to be further and further relegated behind MS preference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can a get a tool that disables the auto update: <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=4516A6F7-5D44-482B-9DBD-869B4A90159C&amp;displaylang=en">http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=4516A6F7-5D44-482B-9DBD-869B4A90159C&amp;displaylang=en</a></p>
<p>MS seem to be getting much more forceful the last few years.  Customer choice seems to be further and further relegated behind MS preference.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 12:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have the IE7 beta installed and it actually overwrites IE6 or whatever other version of IE you had so even if you wanted to revert back it would be somewhat complicated.  

I must say though that I like IE7 so far, the multiple tabs etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the IE7 beta installed and it actually overwrites IE6 or whatever other version of IE you had so even if you wanted to revert back it would be somewhat complicated.  </p>
<p>I must say though that I like IE7 so far, the multiple tabs etc.</p>
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