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	<title>Comments on: Microsoft 2.0? Yawn.</title>
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		<title>By: Live.com bug-ridden and fails to run. &#171; Tom Raftery&#8217;s I.T. views</title>
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		<dc:creator>Live.com bug-ridden and fails to run. &#171; Tom Raftery&#8217;s I.T. views</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 18:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I have written about start.com/live.com previously and I have berated their lack of support for the Mac many times. I gave up waiting for Microsoft to add Mac support (they promised to add Mac support in July 2004 and still hadn&#8217;t by November) so I haven&#8217;t checked it in a long time. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I have written about start.com/live.com previously and I have berated their lack of support for the Mac many times. I gave up waiting for Microsoft to add Mac support (they promised to add Mac support in July 2004 and still hadn&#8217;t by November) so I haven&#8217;t checked it in a long time. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Raftery</title>
		<link>http://www.tomrafteryit.net/microsoft-20-yawn/#comment-2303</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Raftery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 23:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;if they decide to eliminate a market surely thatâ€™s their prerogative, to me itâ€™s no different than not writing an application for a particular platform.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That'd be fair enough if they did decide to eliminate the mac market but my point in the post was not restricted to the Mac platform - the site appears to only work in IE on Windows (and even then not very well according to the Spolsky article I linked to!).

However even more fundamental then that is the site's raison d'etre - the site is a portal site - it is supposed to attract as many visits as possible and thereby earn advertising revenue - it is not supposed to exclude people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>if they decide to eliminate a market surely thatâ€™s their prerogative, to me itâ€™s no different than not writing an application for a particular platform.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;d be fair enough if they did decide to eliminate the mac market but my point in the post was not restricted to the Mac platform - the site appears to only work in IE on Windows (and even then not very well according to the Spolsky article I linked to!).</p>
<p>However even more fundamental then that is the site&#8217;s raison d&#8217;etre - the site is a portal site - it is supposed to attract as many visits as possible and thereby earn advertising revenue - it is not supposed to exclude people.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 23:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry I wasn't clear enough what I meant to say is that Microsoft have software that only works on Mac, Apple have no software that only works on Windows and not Mac. Microsoft write loads of stuff for Mac but Apple to the best of my knowledge just have iTunes and Quicktime.

Why does the fact that the MS website not work on Mac such a large problem,  if they decide to eliminate a market surely that's their prerogative, to me it's no different than not writing an application for a particular platform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I wasn&#8217;t clear enough what I meant to say is that Microsoft have software that only works on Mac, Apple have no software that only works on Windows and not Mac. Microsoft write loads of stuff for Mac but Apple to the best of my knowledge just have iTunes and Quicktime.</p>
<p>Why does the fact that the MS website not work on Mac such a large problem,  if they decide to eliminate a market surely that&#8217;s their prerogative, to me it&#8217;s no different than not writing an application for a particular platform.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Raftery</title>
		<link>http://www.tomrafteryit.net/microsoft-20-yawn/#comment-2300</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Raftery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 23:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,

c'mon, seriously. Garageband is an app not a website - I can't think of any Apple website which doesn't run on a PC.

I don't quite get the "no Apple working on Windows and not visa versa analog" point but Apple's iTunes runs on PC in case that answers your point :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>c&#8217;mon, seriously. Garageband is an app not a website - I can&#8217;t think of any Apple website which doesn&#8217;t run on a PC.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t quite get the &#8220;no Apple working on Windows and not visa versa analog&#8221; point but Apple&#8217;s iTunes runs on PC in case that answers your point <img src='http://www.tomrafteryit.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 22:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what's the huge problem? It doesn't work on non IE browsers? I fail to see how not working with Mac is that big a problem, Garageband doesn't exactly work with my PC and besides there is MS made software that works on Mac but doesn't exist on PC on the otherhand there is no Apple working on Windows and not visa versa analog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what&#8217;s the huge problem? It doesn&#8217;t work on non IE browsers? I fail to see how not working with Mac is that big a problem, Garageband doesn&#8217;t exactly work with my PC and besides there is MS made software that works on Mac but doesn&#8217;t exist on PC on the otherhand there is no Apple working on Windows and not visa versa analog.</p>
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