Comments on: My move from OS X to Vista - Day 2 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/my-move-from-os-x-to-vista-day-2/ Tom Raftery, social media consultant, speaker, blogger and podcaster Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:23:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Thomas http://www.tomrafteryit.net/my-move-from-os-x-to-vista-day-2/#comment-116872 Thomas Fri, 23 May 2008 02:31:53 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/my-move-from-os-x-to-vista-day-2/#comment-116872 Hey I happen on this blog for the same reason My problem is that Thunderbird actually ‘Move deleted messages to Trash folder’. But with the lovely gmail that now handle imap, i want Thunderbird to Move deleted messages to gmail\Trash folder. He can manage perfectly the draft, spam and sent but not the deleted. snif :’( hew really can deleted ? try on brows html and check all maybe an trash Hey I happen on this blog for the same reason My problem is that Thunderbird actually ‘Move deleted messages to Trash folder’.
But with the lovely gmail that now handle imap, i want Thunderbird to Move deleted messages to gmail\Trash folder.
He can manage perfectly the draft, spam and sent but not the deleted.
snif :’(

hew really can deleted ? try on brows html and check all maybe an trash

]]> By: LeSam http://www.tomrafteryit.net/my-move-from-os-x-to-vista-day-2/#comment-111959 LeSam Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:27:52 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/my-move-from-os-x-to-vista-day-2/#comment-111959 " I have yet to find a ‘Move deleted messages to Trash folder’ option for IMAP in Outlook 2007 (which is how I happened upon this blog!). Thunderbird, on the other hand, uses this option by default. " Hey I happen on this blog for the same reason :-D My problem is that Thunderbird actually ‘Move deleted messages to Trash folder’. But with the lovely gmail that now handle imap, i want Thunderbird to Move deleted messages to gmail\Trash folder. He can manage perfectly the draft, spam and sent but not the deleted. snif :'( ”
I have yet to find a ‘Move deleted messages to Trash folder’ option for IMAP in Outlook 2007 (which is how I happened upon this blog!). Thunderbird, on the other hand, uses this option by default.
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Hey I happen on this blog for the same reason :-D My problem is that Thunderbird actually ‘Move deleted messages to Trash folder’.
But with the lovely gmail that now handle imap, i want Thunderbird to Move deleted messages to gmail\Trash folder.
He can manage perfectly the draft, spam and sent but not the deleted.
snif :’(

]]> By: Jason http://www.tomrafteryit.net/my-move-from-os-x-to-vista-day-2/#comment-109179 Jason Wed, 08 Aug 2007 18:14:41 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/my-move-from-os-x-to-vista-day-2/#comment-109179 I use Thunderbird on Vista Daily. I am currently running the 2.0 pre beta builds but they are 100% stable on Vista. I use Thunderbird on Vista Daily. I am currently running the 2.0 pre beta builds but they are 100% stable on Vista.

]]> By: Cory http://www.tomrafteryit.net/my-move-from-os-x-to-vista-day-2/#comment-106305 Cory Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:54:46 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/my-move-from-os-x-to-vista-day-2/#comment-106305 <blockquote>View -> Arrange By - > Current View -> Hide Messages Marked for Deletion</blockquote> This works for hiding the deleted messages, but you can't access them via another folder (ie, a 'Trash' folder), you'd need to unhide them again via the above option. I have yet to find a 'Move deleted messages to Trash folder' option for IMAP in Outlook 2007 (which is how I happened upon this blog!). Thunderbird, on the other hand, uses this option by default. The scoring of deleted emails may be annoying, but IMAP's overall features more than compensate for that. Most people who use Outlook have POP3 boxes set by default to 'leave messages on server', which usually causes the heartache of the .poplock. This sort of behavior is usually hand-in-hand with people using POP3 based webmails as well, which can lose emails after loading the entire POP3 'Inbox' into memory. And finally, Thunderbird crashing in Vista is probably due to Thunderbird/Vista compatibility issues, as opposed to Thunderbird just being generally unstable software. I use TBird on OS X and Ubuntu with nary an issue.

View -> Arrange By - > Current View -> Hide Messages Marked for Deletion

This works for hiding the deleted messages, but you can’t access them via another folder (ie, a ‘Trash’ folder), you’d need to unhide them again via the above option. I have yet to find a ‘Move deleted messages to Trash folder’ option for IMAP in Outlook 2007 (which is how I happened upon this blog!). Thunderbird, on the other hand, uses this option by default.

The scoring of deleted emails may be annoying, but IMAP’s overall features more than compensate for that. Most people who use Outlook have POP3 boxes set by default to ‘leave messages on server’, which usually causes the heartache of the .poplock. This sort of behavior is usually hand-in-hand with people using POP3 based webmails as well, which can lose emails after loading the entire POP3 ‘Inbox’ into memory.

And finally, Thunderbird crashing in Vista is probably due to Thunderbird/Vista compatibility issues, as opposed to Thunderbird just being generally unstable software. I use TBird on OS X and Ubuntu with nary an issue.

]]> By: Egil http://www.tomrafteryit.net/my-move-from-os-x-to-vista-day-2/#comment-105941 Egil Wed, 30 May 2007 10:33:32 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/my-move-from-os-x-to-vista-day-2/#comment-105941 I've also growing tired of Outlooks weak implementation of IMAP. It hangs often during send/receives, which usually results in me having to restart Outlook. In regards to the handling of deleted mails. Under "More Settings" in each mail account, there is an option to "Purge items when switching folders while online". Enabling that will remove deleted mails from your IMAP folders when you switch away from them. I’ve also growing tired of Outlooks weak implementation of IMAP. It hangs often during send/receives, which usually results in me having to restart Outlook.

In regards to the handling of deleted mails. Under “More Settings” in each mail account, there is an option to “Purge items when switching folders while online”. Enabling that will remove deleted mails from your IMAP folders when you switch away from them.

]]> By: Conor O'Neill http://www.tomrafteryit.net/my-move-from-os-x-to-vista-day-2/#comment-103198 Conor O'Neill Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:04:00 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/my-move-from-os-x-to-vista-day-2/#comment-103198 I've always detested Outlook. From its massive memory footprint in the early days to the unbelievably complex options menus where you can never ever find the setting you are looking for, it is pure kitchen sink software. Not 80:20 in terms of users/features. More like 99:1. On the other hand I've always found TB to be solid as a rock, if a little light on features. I’ve always detested Outlook. From its massive memory footprint in the early days to the unbelievably complex options menus where you can never ever find the setting you are looking for, it is pure kitchen sink software. Not 80:20 in terms of users/features. More like 99:1.

On the other hand I’ve always found TB to be solid as a rock, if a little light on features.

]]> By: adam http://www.tomrafteryit.net/my-move-from-os-x-to-vista-day-2/#comment-103196 adam Mon, 26 Mar 2007 21:26:47 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/my-move-from-os-x-to-vista-day-2/#comment-103196 You can also remove the right-hand pane by just clicking the close button Tom; todo and calendar items should appear in the homepage anyway. Personally I think the three pane (folders / messages / message) view is much more productive, although it does need a relatively large res. I certainly can't do it on my lappie, although that only does 1024 anyway. As to IMAP, Outlook's always been shite, the development team just can't seem to get over the proprietary PST and OST storage yokes. That's why I switched to Thunderbird. How did it crash for you? You can also remove the right-hand pane by just clicking the close button Tom; todo and calendar items should appear in the homepage anyway. Personally I think the three pane (folders / messages / message) view is much more productive, although it does need a relatively large res. I certainly can’t do it on my lappie, although that only does 1024 anyway. As to IMAP, Outlook’s always been shite, the development team just can’t seem to get over the proprietary
PST and OST storage yokes. That’s why I switched to Thunderbird. How did it crash for you?

]]> By: Conor http://www.tomrafteryit.net/my-move-from-os-x-to-vista-day-2/#comment-103189 Conor Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:13:38 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/my-move-from-os-x-to-vista-day-2/#comment-103189 I don't know about you guys but I quite liked the look of Outlook 2007. The fact all the information was right in front of me was a handy feature. Although I've never used Apple's Mail app so I can't say how it compares up to Outlook. And yes I also hate Thunderbird. I don’t know about you guys but I quite liked the look of Outlook 2007.

The fact all the information was right in front of me was a handy feature. Although I’ve never used Apple’s Mail app so I can’t say how it compares up to Outlook. And yes I also hate Thunderbird.

]]> By: Tom Raftery http://www.tomrafteryit.net/my-move-from-os-x-to-vista-day-2/#comment-103187 Tom Raftery Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:16:15 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/my-move-from-os-x-to-vista-day-2/#comment-103187 D'oh! thanks John - wasn't aware of that (obviously!). D’oh!

thanks John - wasn’t aware of that (obviously!).

]]> By: John Kelly http://www.tomrafteryit.net/my-move-from-os-x-to-vista-day-2/#comment-103180 John Kelly Mon, 26 Mar 2007 12:22:49 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/my-move-from-os-x-to-vista-day-2/#comment-103180 <blockquote>if I delete an email, I want it to disappear, not stay in my inbox with a line through it</blockquote> View -> Arrange By - > Current View -> Hide Messages Marked for Deletion

if I delete an email, I want it to disappear, not stay in my inbox with a line through it

View -> Arrange By - > Current View -> Hide Messages Marked for Deletion

]]> By: Paul Campbell http://www.tomrafteryit.net/my-move-from-os-x-to-vista-day-2/#comment-103179 Paul Campbell Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:33:43 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/my-move-from-os-x-to-vista-day-2/#comment-103179 I'm pretty sure there's an option to "Move deleted messages to Trash" in the later versions of Outlook. But by God it's one of the most annoying ways of handling deleted messages I've ever come across. I don't think I've come across *anyone* who uses it as a feature. It's an illusory, yet strong argument _against_ IMAP, for users who are on Outlook Express and don't want to change client. I’m pretty sure there’s an option to “Move deleted messages to Trash” in the later versions of Outlook. But by God it’s one of the most annoying ways of handling deleted messages I’ve ever come across. I don’t think I’ve come across *anyone* who uses it as a feature. It’s an illusory, yet strong argument _against_ IMAP, for users who are on Outlook Express and don’t want to change client.

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