Comments on: Will 2008 be the year of the standards compliant browser? http://www.tomrafteryit.net/will-2008-be-the-year-of-the-standards-compliant-browser/ Tom Raftery, social media consultant, speaker, blogger and podcaster Sat, 05 Jul 2008 21:20:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Shannon http://www.tomrafteryit.net/will-2008-be-the-year-of-the-standards-compliant-browser/#comment-113764 Shannon Wed, 09 Jan 2008 06:13:28 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/will-2008-be-the-year-of-the-standards-compliant-browser/#comment-113764 Acid2 test is one of internet leading test. Not sure what IE8 will do, but IE6 or even IE 7 has security hole. I am currently using Mozilla Firefox, which eliminate spyware threat but I don't think IE has that ability yet. But IE8 invention, may be I will give it a try sometime. <a href="http://www.chat-place.org">Chat Place</a> Acid2 test is one of internet leading test. Not sure what IE8 will do, but IE6 or even IE 7 has security hole.
I am currently using Mozilla Firefox, which eliminate spyware threat but I don’t think IE has that ability yet. But IE8 invention, may be I will give it a try sometime.
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]]> By: Frugal Guy http://www.tomrafteryit.net/will-2008-be-the-year-of-the-standards-compliant-browser/#comment-113611 Frugal Guy Sun, 30 Dec 2007 15:20:28 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/will-2008-be-the-year-of-the-standards-compliant-browser/#comment-113611 I don't know. As an IT guy I've had to beat my head against non-standardisms all the time. Sure, it will pass a particular test, and maybe the browsers will finally start to display the same code in something approaching the same manner, but is it going to be extended and have additional features that no other browser supports? Microsoft has traditionally been the company that has worked to subvert and pervert any standards that it does not control and define. I won't even get into the issue of bugs... Anyway, not to sound too jaded, but it is progress. Now all we have to do is wait years until enough people have upgraded. Then, at some point, when the vast majority of visitors are compliant, we can start to rely on it! Okay. I am jaded. :) I don’t know. As an IT guy I’ve had to beat my head against non-standardisms all the time.

Sure, it will pass a particular test, and maybe the browsers will finally start to display the same code in something approaching the same manner, but is it going to be extended and have additional features that no other browser supports?

Microsoft has traditionally been the company that has worked to subvert and pervert any standards that it does not control and define.

I won’t even get into the issue of bugs…

Anyway, not to sound too jaded, but it is progress. Now all we have to do is wait years until enough people have upgraded. Then, at some point, when the vast majority of visitors are compliant, we can start to rely on it!

Okay. I am jaded. :)

]]> By: Utusan Malaysia http://www.tomrafteryit.net/will-2008-be-the-year-of-the-standards-compliant-browser/#comment-113514 Utusan Malaysia Mon, 24 Dec 2007 13:06:38 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/will-2008-be-the-year-of-the-standards-compliant-browser/#comment-113514 i don't know but safari n IE but for me, since i'm using firefox, my PC is less attacked by those malware and i seldom has problem with internet...i might just stick with firefox lol i don’t know but safari n IE but for me, since i’m using firefox, my PC is less attacked by those malware and i seldom has problem with internet…i might just stick with firefox lol

]]> By: Internet Explorer 8 making progress Life is grand http://www.tomrafteryit.net/will-2008-be-the-year-of-the-standards-compliant-browser/#comment-113501 Internet Explorer 8 making progress Life is grand Sat, 22 Dec 2007 15:54:55 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/will-2008-be-the-year-of-the-standards-compliant-browser/#comment-113501 [...] As Tom says, 2008 could be a good year for web developers and web users. [...] [...] As Tom says, 2008 could be a good year for web developers and web users. [...]

]]> By: Paul M. Watson http://www.tomrafteryit.net/will-2008-be-the-year-of-the-standards-compliant-browser/#comment-113459 Paul M. Watson Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:22:09 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/will-2008-be-the-year-of-the-standards-compliant-browser/#comment-113459 The practicality of the Acid2 test is pretty thin, barry. Your browser may be a genius and pass the test but it may then fail miserably in the real world. You also have to take into account that, for instance, Google.com doesn't even validate. Most Google HTML/CSS code isn't built to pass validation but is built to serve users with buggy browsers (the "real world".) Passing the Acid2 test is no guarantee of anything. I am still glad they did it though. It just won't herald overnight change in the web :) The practicality of the Acid2 test is pretty thin, barry. Your browser may be a genius and pass the test but it may then fail miserably in the real world.

You also have to take into account that, for instance, Google.com doesn’t even validate. Most Google HTML/CSS code isn’t built to pass validation but is built to serve users with buggy browsers (the “real world”.) Passing the Acid2 test is no guarantee of anything.

I am still glad they did it though. It just won’t herald overnight change in the web :)

]]> By: barry http://www.tomrafteryit.net/will-2008-be-the-year-of-the-standards-compliant-browser/#comment-113458 barry Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:07:18 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/will-2008-be-the-year-of-the-standards-compliant-browser/#comment-113458 As an Opera user I am annoyed that Google Groups doesn't support it.... I have to use (ugh) IE.... is this covered by the Acid Test? As an Opera user I am annoyed that Google Groups doesn’t support it…. I have to use (ugh) IE…. is this covered by the Acid Test?

]]> By: Paul M. Watson http://www.tomrafteryit.net/will-2008-be-the-year-of-the-standards-compliant-browser/#comment-113457 Paul M. Watson Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:02:52 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/will-2008-be-the-year-of-the-standards-compliant-browser/#comment-113457 Nobody is fully standards compliant but this is good news for web-devs and web-users alike. IE8 should get some good distribution through Microsoft update, something that Firefox, Opera and even Safari can't parallel. Nobody is fully standards compliant but this is good news for web-devs and web-users alike. IE8 should get some good distribution through Microsoft update, something that Firefox, Opera and even Safari can’t parallel.

]]> By: Tom Raftery http://www.tomrafteryit.net/will-2008-be-the-year-of-the-standards-compliant-browser/#comment-113456 Tom Raftery Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:05:43 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/will-2008-be-the-year-of-the-standards-compliant-browser/#comment-113456 Correct Keith - Opera passed the Acid2 test on June 20th 2006. The third major browser to do so (after Safari and Konqueror). Correct Keith - Opera passed the Acid2 test on June 20th 2006. The third major browser to do so (after Safari and Konqueror).

]]> By: Keith http://www.tomrafteryit.net/will-2008-be-the-year-of-the-standards-compliant-browser/#comment-113455 Keith Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:56:22 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/will-2008-be-the-year-of-the-standards-compliant-browser/#comment-113455 Opera has been fully standards compliant for years. Opera has been fully standards compliant for years.

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