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	<title>Comments on: Windows Live Mail&#8217;s exclusionary philosophy</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 18:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Episode 1 &#171; Link En Fuego</title>
		<link>http://www.tomrafteryit.net/windows-live-mails-exclusionary-philosophy/#comment-105511</link>
		<dc:creator>Episode 1 &#171; Link En Fuego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 08:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Raftery said it best, Hotmailâ€”now rebranded as &#8216;Windows Live Hotmail&#8217;â€”is much more Microsoft and less Windows Live. If they give uncrippled Firefox and full Safari support, I&#8217;d change my [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Raftery said it best, Hotmailâ€”now rebranded as &#8216;Windows Live Hotmail&#8217;â€”is much more Microsoft and less Windows Live. If they give uncrippled Firefox and full Safari support, I&#8217;d change my [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Thanks Microsoft &#187; at Tom Raftery&#8217;s I.T. views</title>
		<link>http://www.tomrafteryit.net/windows-live-mails-exclusionary-philosophy/#comment-11798</link>
		<dc:creator>Thanks Microsoft &#187; at Tom Raftery&#8217;s I.T. views</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 May 2006 22:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Regular readers of this blog will know that I&#8217;m not shy about taking potshots at Microsoft. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Regular readers of this blog will know that I&#8217;m not shy about taking potshots at Microsoft. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.tomrafteryit.net/windows-live-mails-exclusionary-philosophy/#comment-9018</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 19:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's actually a lot better then what it used to be like.
http://frem.wordpress.com/2006/01/27/windows-live-mail-first-impressions/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s actually a lot better then what it used to be like.<br />
<a href="http://frem.wordpress.com/2006/01/27/windows-live-mail-first-impressions/">http://frem.wordpress.com/2006/01/27/windows-live-mail-first-impressions/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Microsoft to start supporting Firefox? &#187; at Tom Raftery&#8217;s I.T. views</title>
		<link>http://www.tomrafteryit.net/windows-live-mails-exclusionary-philosophy/#comment-9012</link>
		<dc:creator>Microsoft to start supporting Firefox? &#187; at Tom Raftery&#8217;s I.T. views</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 10:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I write posts here with boring regularity on Microsoft&#8217;s latest releases. They all follow a similar pattern - &#8220;I have just heard that Microsoft have just released [insert product name here] unfortunately it doesn&#8217;t work in Firefox/Mac&#8221;. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I write posts here with boring regularity on Microsoft&#8217;s latest releases. They all follow a similar pattern - &#8220;I have just heard that Microsoft have just released [insert product name here] unfortunately it doesn&#8217;t work in Firefox/Mac&#8221;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Raftery</title>
		<link>http://www.tomrafteryit.net/windows-live-mails-exclusionary-philosophy/#comment-8805</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Raftery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2006 23:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Eoghan - the issue I have is that their aim should be to promote the use of Windows Live Mail or Windows Live Shopping respectively - NOT Internet Explorer! In fact, this ploy does the opposite and ensures many non-IE users will not alone not use it - they will post posts like this one, denouncing the products.

@ Stewart - possibly you haven't read &lt;a href="http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1952999,00.asp"&gt;John Dvorak's article on Internet Explorer&lt;/a&gt;. Have a read off that and then tell me Microsoft haven't lost.

@ Kevin - Live has been working on browser (and platform) compatibility since its predecessor Start.com was launched. I have posted several times on this blog about that. Either it is taking an incredibly long time, or it is very far down Microsoft's priority list which is another way of saying IE or nothing (until we get around to non-IE browsers).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Eoghan - the issue I have is that their aim should be to promote the use of Windows Live Mail or Windows Live Shopping respectively - NOT Internet Explorer! In fact, this ploy does the opposite and ensures many non-IE users will not alone not use it - they will post posts like this one, denouncing the products.</p>
<p>@ Stewart - possibly you haven&#8217;t read <a href="http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1952999,00.asp">John Dvorak&#8217;s article on Internet Explorer</a>. Have a read off that and then tell me Microsoft haven&#8217;t lost.</p>
<p>@ Kevin - Live has been working on browser (and platform) compatibility since its predecessor Start.com was launched. I have posted several times on this blog about that. Either it is taking an incredibly long time, or it is very far down Microsoft&#8217;s priority list which is another way of saying IE or nothing (until we get around to non-IE browsers).</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.tomrafteryit.net/windows-live-mails-exclusionary-philosophy/#comment-8795</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2006 20:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I (and many others internally) 100% agree beta sites should come out with full Firefox/Opera/Safari support, Mail and Shopping are still in initial beta and the teams are working up full browser compatibility for launch as we type. It's not some battle tactic to promote IE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I (and many others internally) 100% agree beta sites should come out with full Firefox/Opera/Safari support, Mail and Shopping are still in initial beta and the teams are working up full browser compatibility for launch as we type. It&#8217;s not some battle tactic to promote IE.</p>
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		<title>By: Stewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2006 18:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you think the war is over and Microsoft lost, you don't know much about fighting or Microsoft....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you think the war is over and Microsoft lost, you don&#8217;t know much about fighting or Microsoft&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Eoghan McCabe</title>
		<link>http://www.tomrafteryit.net/windows-live-mails-exclusionary-philosophy/#comment-8785</link>
		<dc:creator>Eoghan McCabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2006 16:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's a totally uncool thing to do and buys them no respect from those in the know.

But if their aim is to increase (or promote) the use of IE, is it a stupid thing to do? Microsoft is an authoritative body in the eyes of most people. A lot of folks will buy being told by MS that IE is best and that that's why they need it for their Live software. It implies "other browsers aren't good enough to handle our sophisticated technology".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a totally uncool thing to do and buys them no respect from those in the know.</p>
<p>But if their aim is to increase (or promote) the use of IE, is it a stupid thing to do? Microsoft is an authoritative body in the eyes of most people. A lot of folks will buy being told by MS that IE is best and that that&#8217;s why they need it for their Live software. It implies &#8220;other browsers aren&#8217;t good enough to handle our sophisticated technology&#8221;.</p>
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